just to be contrarian, there was perhaps the best known drum teacher in canada - jim blackley, who took the indian concept of singing a phrase and applying this to the modern drum set.. i am really simplifying his approach, but it is kind of the opposite of ''doing rudiments'' although it very much included all the ideas associated with rudiments, but from the point of view of playing music as opposed to playing rudiments... perhaps his best known student was terry clarke.. terry moved to new york for a time and played with jim hall.. he did a few albums with jim hall as well that some here might be familiar with.. terry is still playing.. i saw him here in nanaimo at the nanaimo international jazz festival this past weekend...
this is something different for you, lol... you might get a kick out if it and it could arouse your curiousity! you could do an interview with terry perhaps, if you are really curious!!! send me a note and i can probably get you his contact info..
Beautiful comment, nice to learn about Jim Blackley. I got a chance to talk to Terry at the Rex a couple years ago when I was playing with Terry’s old pal Michael Formanek. We took some pictures, I was thrilled to meet him— I’m a big Terry Clarke fan. I absolutely sing the rudiments to the students, every teacher of mine sang them to me, and my students and I sing them together. Great point.
you'd enjoy getting a copy of one of jim blackleys books to take a closer look at what he was doing.. if you are on vancouver island - i will give you a first hand demonstration!
Thank you Vinnie. This seems obvious, but after 30 years of teaching, I'm constantly reminded that a good solid technique isn't a given with the majority of my incoming students at the college level.
There are many great rudimental books to study from. Pratt, Street, and newer books that embrace new rudiments added to the original 26 are readily available. The old warhorses are a great place to start! I also recommend books that address techniques from a classical angle to my students.
Developing Dexterity by Mitchell Peters is something I often add to my student's study of technique.
The other book my students use is Technique Patterns by Gary Chaffee. Both Gary Chaffee and Mitchell Peter's books take a good look at the development of finger control.
I always look forward to your next post! Keep the insightful information coming.
Thanks for this! I never did crack Stone's methods beyond the first few pages... and never did really master them... but one huge revelation for me (thanks to my teacher) was going beyond the snare and applying the rudiments to other drums, including the bass drum: R=snare, L=bass drum, or vice versa... Tony Williams was a master at this, and at top speed. Thanks for inspiring me, I gotta dig out Stone again!
thanks vinnie...
just to be contrarian, there was perhaps the best known drum teacher in canada - jim blackley, who took the indian concept of singing a phrase and applying this to the modern drum set.. i am really simplifying his approach, but it is kind of the opposite of ''doing rudiments'' although it very much included all the ideas associated with rudiments, but from the point of view of playing music as opposed to playing rudiments... perhaps his best known student was terry clarke.. terry moved to new york for a time and played with jim hall.. he did a few albums with jim hall as well that some here might be familiar with.. terry is still playing.. i saw him here in nanaimo at the nanaimo international jazz festival this past weekend...
this is something different for you, lol... you might get a kick out if it and it could arouse your curiousity! you could do an interview with terry perhaps, if you are really curious!!! send me a note and i can probably get you his contact info..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Blackley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Clarke_(drummer)
Beautiful comment, nice to learn about Jim Blackley. I got a chance to talk to Terry at the Rex a couple years ago when I was playing with Terry’s old pal Michael Formanek. We took some pictures, I was thrilled to meet him— I’m a big Terry Clarke fan. I absolutely sing the rudiments to the students, every teacher of mine sang them to me, and my students and I sing them together. Great point.
thanks vinnie
you'd enjoy getting a copy of one of jim blackleys books to take a closer look at what he was doing.. if you are on vancouver island - i will give you a first hand demonstration!
Thank you Vinnie. This seems obvious, but after 30 years of teaching, I'm constantly reminded that a good solid technique isn't a given with the majority of my incoming students at the college level.
There are many great rudimental books to study from. Pratt, Street, and newer books that embrace new rudiments added to the original 26 are readily available. The old warhorses are a great place to start! I also recommend books that address techniques from a classical angle to my students.
Developing Dexterity by Mitchell Peters is something I often add to my student's study of technique.
The other book my students use is Technique Patterns by Gary Chaffee. Both Gary Chaffee and Mitchell Peter's books take a good look at the development of finger control.
I always look forward to your next post! Keep the insightful information coming.
Thank you very much.
John
Thanks for some good info John!
Thanks for this! I never did crack Stone's methods beyond the first few pages... and never did really master them... but one huge revelation for me (thanks to my teacher) was going beyond the snare and applying the rudiments to other drums, including the bass drum: R=snare, L=bass drum, or vice versa... Tony Williams was a master at this, and at top speed. Thanks for inspiring me, I gotta dig out Stone again!
Thank you Sam! Love that take on Stick Control, Tomas Fujiwara told me he worked on that very exercise with Alan Dawson!